<div dir="ltr">I still think we can green up the dashboard. We went through this with VTK. They was a lot of griping in the beginning and a lot of excuses, but the community pulled together and did it. That took months, but VTK was in much worse shape. I would hole that of we tag an RC, that we make greening a priority before the final release.<div>
<br></div><div style>Bill</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Matt McCormick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matt.mccormick@kitware.com" target="_blank">matt.mccormick@kitware.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I agree with Hans. There are bugs, but there are *always* bugs, at<br>
least in corner cases for reasonably complex software. And, ITK is<br>
more than reasonably complex. A completely green dashboard does not<br>
mean there are not bugs, either -- it just means the bugs are not<br>
showing up on the dashboard.<br>
<br>
I started a new section of the dashboard called "Expected Nightly<br>
Exotic", and I have moved Nightly builds there for configurations that<br>
are a work in progress in terms of build errors, warnings, and test<br>
failures. The "Expected Nightly" contains the most used<br>
configurations. Builds can be moved from "Expected Nightly Exotic" to<br>
"Expected Nightly" after they become green.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Matt<br>
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On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Johnson, Hans J <<a href="mailto:hans-johnson@uiowa.edu">hans-johnson@uiowa.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> As a counter argument:<br>
><br>
> The bug tracker has over 400 issues of *known* problems, some of which have<br>
> been there for many years. In my opinion, we need a release that provides<br>
> ABSOLUTELY NO problems in the core, and explicit acknowledgment that corner<br>
> case issues are EXPLICITLY going to be addressed in the next release.<br>
><br>
> There are certainly some red items that need to be addressed, but much of<br>
> the red on the dashboard are compilers and computer environments that we can<br>
> not replicate. Many of the failures are test timeouts on machines that we<br>
> do not have control of making faster. Some of the most troublesome<br>
> dashboards are ones that build with Wrapping. In my opinion, wrapping does<br>
> not have a sufficient user/developer community to justify holding up a<br>
> release.<br>
><br>
> I would really like to see the dashboard have two nightly expected sections.<br>
> 1) A part that covers the CORE part of ITK that has development support and<br>
> covers the 10-15 environments that are "most" used, and 2) community<br>
> contributed parts that have more advanced and specialized builds (i.e.<br>
> wrapping, fftw, GPU, VTK, OpenCV).<br>
><br>
> Hans<br>
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> From: Bill Lorensen <<a href="mailto:bill.lorensen@gmail.com">bill.lorensen@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:33 AM<br>
> To: David Cole <<a href="mailto:dlrdave@aol.com">dlrdave@aol.com</a>><br>
> Cc: ITK <<a href="mailto:insight-developers@itk.org">insight-developers@itk.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Insight-developers] ITK 4.4 release candidate cycles about to<br>
> begin<br>
><br>
> +1<br>
><br>
> On Wednesday, May 8, 2013, David Cole wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> All of them...<br>
>><br>
>> Otherwise, you’re intentionally releasing software that has *known*<br>
>> problems in it.<br>
>><br>
>> Quality is more important than an exactly on-time schedule.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Just one opinion, I’m sure...<br>
>> D<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: Matt McCormick<br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:08 PM<br>
>> To: Bill Lorensen<br>
>> Cc: ITK<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Bill,<br>
>><br>
>> What are the red issues that need to be resolved?<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Matt<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Bill Lorensen <<a href="mailto:bill.lorensen@gmail.com">bill.lorensen@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > I think the dashboard is too red to tag a release candidate.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Matt McCormick<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:matt.mccormick@kitware.com">matt.mccormick@kitware.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> As a reminder, the ITK 4.4 release candidate cycle is about to begin.<br>
>> >> Please have any remaining ENH: patches that have code reviews and<br>
>> >> clean CDash@Home builds merged by the end of the day, Friday. The<br>
>> >> first RC will be tagged on Monday.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Thanks,<br>
>> >> Matt<br>
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