[Insight-developers] Raw image IO factory?

Joshua Cates cates@sci.utah.edu
Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:05:58 -0700 (MST)


Hi Stephen,

When just reading a file, will the MetaImageIO still recognize the
ElementDataFile tag even if named with extension .mha, or must all .mha's
with this tag be renamed to .mhd?

Josh.

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On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Stephen R. Aylward wrote:

> I've made the changes, but will not check-in until after the first tag.
> 
> About the extensions...they seemed like a good idea at the time and I 
> hesitate to change them, but I am open to adding other aliases :)
> 
> s
> 
> Miller, James V (Research) wrote:
> > Boy, it going to take me a while to engrain these extensions
> > into my subconscious.  My internal parse table maps "mhd" to
> > mean "meta header and data in one file" and "mha" to mean 
> > something like "meta header alias" (or meta header in one file 
> > with an external file for data). The latter is a bit of a stretch.
> > 
> > But this is the opposite of what they mean.
> > 
> > I probably would have used the extensions:
> > 
> > "mh" - meta header that indicates the path to a file for the raw data
> > "mhd" - meta header and data in one file
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Stephen R. Aylward [mailto:aylward@unc.edu]
> >>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:17 PM
> >>To: Miller, James V (Research)
> >>Cc: 'Luis Ibanez'; Insight-developers (E-mail)
> >>Subject: Re: [Insight-developers] Raw image IO factory?
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Sorry that I couldn't make the tcon...busy selling my soul for 
> >>additional funding...the bid is up to $2....
> >>
> >>Anyway, '.mhd' was originally intended to indicate a metaHeader file 
> >>that only contained the name of the data file while '.mha' 
> >>was intended 
> >>to indicate a file containing header and data ('all').  But, 
> >>we stopped 
> >>using that when we thought ITK wasn't going to use the postfix to 
> >>distinguish files...perhaps now we should return to that....
> >>
> >>Stephen
> >>
> >>Miller, James V (Research) wrote:
> >>
> >>>Luis,
> >>>
> >>>Using the meta image format as an output factory worked 
> >>>for me.  So I'll use that.
> >>>
> >>>What extension should I use?  It seems to respond to both
> >>>"mha" and "mhd".
> >>>
> >>>Jim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Miller, James V (Research) 
> >>>>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:03 PM
> >>>>To: 'Luis Ibanez'
> >>>>Cc: Insight-developers (E-mail)
> >>>>Subject: RE: [Insight-developers] Raw image IO factory?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>I guess what I what is to be able to write 
> >>>>out a raw image using a factory.  I want a command
> >>>>line program that does
> >>>>
> >>>>./MyProgram input.png output.raw
> >>>>
> >>>>and have it write out a raw image.  And if I do
> >>>>
> >>>>./MyProgram input.png output.png
> >>>>
> >>>>it would write a png file.
> >>>>
> >>>>I agree that you loose the spacing and size, etc. But I am 
> >>>>trying to do a quick and dirty integration of an ITK algorithm
> >>>>to a legacy system and want to just rig up an IPC process.  So
> >>>>my existing app tells my ITK app to run on a particular input
> >>>>file and output a particular output file which it will then 
> >>>>read (since they app already knows the size and spacing, it can 
> >>>>just do a bulk read).
> >>>>
> >>>>Can I use the Meta image as an output factory?  If so, that will
> >>>>do what I want.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: Luis Ibanez [mailto:luis.ibanez@kitware.com]
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:53 PM
> >>>>>To: Miller, James V (Research)
> >>>>>Cc: Insight-developers (E-mail)
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Insight-developers] Raw image IO factory?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Hi Jim,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The problem with Raw is that even if we set a factory
> >>>>>that figures out the correct ImageIO from the file
> >>>>>extension, there is no easy way to arrange for the
> >>>>>additional image information to be passed to the
> >>>>>ImageIO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>In the current mode for raw, the user has to instantiate
> >>>>>the RawImageIO object, pass the spacing, size and origin
> >>>>>of the image, and then trigger the execution of the reader.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I personaly think that being so easy to create a MetaImage
> >>>>>header or a VTK header for a raw file, we should rather
> >>>>>encourage users to use those mechanism as a way of 'wrapping'
> >>>>>a raw file.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>At the end of the day, a 'raw' image is an incomplete
> >>>>>file and there is no way to figure out the content
> >>>>>without the additional information.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Luis
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-----------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Miller, James V (Research) wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Should there be a raw image IO factory for raw images?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>There is no RawImageIOFactory in the system.  Currently the 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>RawImageIO 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>object says it can write a file as long as there is a 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>filename.  So I 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>imagine this is why there is not a corresponding 
> >>>>>
> >>>>RawImageIOFactory 
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>(since it would respond yes to everything). 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>But when running in factory mode, could a RawImageIOFactory 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>respond to 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>being able to read/write files if the extension is ".raw"?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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