[Insight-developers] ITKv4: Features vs Clean up

Mon Jul 4 07:58:08 EDT 2011

Bill,

The more i read about git, the more convinced i am, despite the
learning curve.  Its a steep one though.

Yes, i saw that line and used it.  I have studied it a bit more this
morning. The first command on that line
gives me trouble this morning - as written its

git fetch http://review.source.kitware.com/p/ITK refs/changes/51/1551/1

which to me says get from the repository named p/ITK on revew.kitware
etc a branch named refs/changes/51/1551/1

However this fails with the following
rupert at morrigan:~/src/ITK$ git fetch
http://review.source.kitware.com/p/ITK refs/changes/51/1551/1
fatal: http://review.source.kitware.com/p/ITK/info/refs download error
- The requested URL returned error: 403

I could interpret this as needed quotes around
"http://review.source.kitware.com/p/ITK refs/changes/51/1551/1" but
this gives
me a different error

fatal: Couldn't find remote ref HEAD

using ssh gives me slightly different errors.
rupert at morrigan:~/src/ITK$ git fetch
http://review.source.kitware.com/p/ITK refs/changes/51/1551/1
fatal: http://review.source.kitware.com/p/ITK/info/refs download error
- The requested URL returned error: 403
rupert at morrigan:~/src/ITK$ git fetch
ssh://review.source.kitware.com/p/ITK refs/changes/51/1551/1
Enter passphrase for key '/home/rupert/.ssh/id_rsa':
fatal: '/p/ITK': not a Gerrit project
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly

After reading a lot of docs, i'm fairly convinced that this is the
right command to use (In any case, i copied it from Gerritt).
But i'm not confident enough in my git understanding to say for sure.

Just in case its relevant
rupert at morrigan:~/src/ITK$ git --version
git version 1.6.3.3
rupert at morrigan:~/src/ITK$ uname -a
Linux morrigan 2.6.31-22-generic #73-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 11 19:18:05
UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Happy Independence Day - these matters can easily wait till tomorrow.

Rupert

--------------------------------------------------------------
Rupert Brooks
rupert.brooks at gmail.com

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 15:46, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Rupert,
>
> There is a button to the right of the gerrit download line. It will
> copy the download line and you can paste it.
>
> There is a bit of a learning cure. But it will be worth it.
>
> This comes from a guy that hates change...
>
> Bill
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Rupert Brooks <rupert.brooks at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Bill
>>
>> ssh gave me a less cryptic error at least, so i realized it was the
>> space in ITK refs that was causing the 403 error.  I've gotten
>> farther, but i realize i need to study git a lot more closely.  It may
>> take a while....  Its sunny here, so it may also wait due to good
>> weather :-)
>>
>> Rupert
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> Rupert Brooks
>> rupert.brooks at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 14:49, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Rupert,
>>>
>>> There are 3 different ways to pull from gerrit: Anonymous HTTP, SSH
>>> and HTTP. I recall that I had intermittent problems with the HTTP a
>>> while back. I always use SSH.
>>>
>>> You could try your original again and see if it works. Or try the other two.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Rupert Brooks <rupert.brooks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Ok - I was game to try this (specifically reviewing the BSpline one),
>>>> but im having some trouble with the version control system.  I
>>>> apologize in advance for my Git ignorance.
>>>>
>>>> I set up ITK -git for developers as described on the wiki.  I wrote a
>>>> little use case of my own for BSpline.  What i want to do is
>>>>
>>>> 1 - build / run my usecase against the master
>>>> 2 - check out the modification described in Gerrit
>>>> 3 - build run my usecase with the mod.
>>>> 4 - switch back and forth as needed poking it until i  feel i understand
>>>> 5 - comment intelligently (hopefully)
>>>>
>>>> Im stuck on 2.  This usage of the revision control doesnt seem to be
>>>> described in the Wiki - there is how to make some local changes and
>>>> push them to Gerrit, but not how to pull from gerrit and review a
>>>> change, then change back.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the git commands listed in the gerrit change, but that went
>>>> nowhere with the following error.
>>>>
>>>> rupert at morrigan:~/src/ITK$ git fetch
>>>> http://review.source.kitware.com/p/ITK refs/changes/56/1856/7 && git
>>>> checkout FETCH_HEAD -b BSplineRegistrationRefactoring
>>>> fatal: http://review.source.kitware.com/p/ITK/info/refs download error
>>>> - The requested URL returned error: 403
>>>>
>>>> Its also not clear to me how I would switch back, although im guessing
>>>> git checkout master
>>>>
>>>> should do the job
>>>>
>>>> Is there a wiki doc walking through this common use case for the
>>>> Revision control system?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Rupert
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Rupert Brooks
>>>> rupert.brooks at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 09:31, Nicholas Tustison <ntustison at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Rupert,
>>>>>
>>>>> Much of the work is in the RegistrationRefactoring branch on github
>>>>> as mentioned.  However, more-or-less self-encapsulated units are
>>>>> currently on gerrit and you're certainly welcome to review them.  For
>>>>> example, some fundamental fixes to the B-spline deformable transform
>>>>> and initializer are proposed here
>>>>>
>>>>> http://review.source.kitware.com/#change,1856
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, a good chunk of the point set metric refactoring/enhancements
>>>>> are proposed here
>>>>>
>>>>> http://review.source.kitware.com/#change,1976
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if they fall within your interest but we're always looking for
>>>>> feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 30, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Rupert Brooks wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Procrastinate for two weeks.  Absolutely ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The latter part of the email seems to suggest though that it might
>>>>>> help if i follow along during the process of putting the refactored
>>>>>> code into ITK4.  I assume this would best be done via the Gerrit
>>>>>> review process.  If i understand correctly, whats in
>>>>>> RegistrationRefactoring will soon be pushed to the ITKV4 master.  Is
>>>>>> this the right way to proceed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rupert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Rupert Brooks
>>>>>> rupert.brooks at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 08:27, Johnson, Hans J <hans-johnson at uiowa.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> Rupert and Brian,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a proposal:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rupert:  Would you be able to wait two weeks to do your review?  We just
>>>>>>> finished our ITKv4 developers meeting, and there will be a lot of action
>>>>>>> in the next two weeks to bring this directly into ITKv4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brian:  Could we help get the current alpha pieces pushed into ITKv4
>>>>>>> proper?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ==========================
>>>>>>> I am concerned about getting distracted from the primary goal of getting
>>>>>>> the registration into ITKv4 directly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hans: I was planning to do extensive registration testing, and external
>>>>>>> tool code refactoring to match the ITKv4 registration framework during the
>>>>>>> second 1/2 of July. If Rupert and Hans could assist Brian's team in
>>>>>>> getting the source code moved and integrated with ITKv4 between now and
>>>>>>> July 15, then we will be more efficient in identifying use case problems
>>>>>>> related to algorithmic and api problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this timeline work for the two of you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/30/11 7:12 AM, "Rupert Brooks" <rupert.brooks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This looks very interesting.  I hope you dont mind a few questions.
>>>>>>>> If theres a written document to refer me to, feel free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been reading this:
>>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK_Release_4/Enhancing_Image_Registration_Framewo
>>>>>>>> rk
>>>>>>>> but i have trouble mapping it to what i see in the GIT.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm having some trouble identifying all the diffs between the
>>>>>>>> Registration branch and current ITK master, but it seems to me that
>>>>>>>> most is in Modules/Registration/Refactoring.  Would that be the case?
>>>>>>>> Is this ImageToObjectRegistration framework intended to replace one or
>>>>>>>> more of the current Parametric / PDE / FEM registration frameworks, or
>>>>>>>> to be in parallel with them.   Or, to ask my question another way - I
>>>>>>>> currently have some feedback / commentary regarding
>>>>>>>> itkOptimizer.h and its children...
>>>>>>>> itkCompositeTransform.txx
>>>>>>>> itkImageToImageMetric.txx
>>>>>>>> itkNormalizedCorrelationImageToImageMetric.txx
>>>>>>>> which are in Modules/Registration/Common
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently in RegistrationRefactoringNew these seem to be the same as
>>>>>>>> in master.  Will the new refactored framework replace these classes,
>>>>>>>> so i shouldnt spend any time fiddling with them, or is it more or less
>>>>>>>> independent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've only had about half an hour to look at it, and i havent had time
>>>>>>>> to compile it yet, so i may be about to embarrass myself with a stupid
>>>>>>>> question.  I'll ask anyway.  A core fundamental refactoring - looking
>>>>>>>> at the example you pointed me to - is that the update to the
>>>>>>>> parameters seems to have been pushed down all the way to the
>>>>>>>> transform, via the metric in the middle.  This is a very interesting
>>>>>>>> choice - for transforms such as the versor transform, which must
>>>>>>>> remain on a manifold that doesnt embed well in Euclidean space, this
>>>>>>>> removes the constraint issue from the optimizer. However - it did make
>>>>>>>> me wonder - what if i want to do anything other than gradient descent?
>>>>>>>> Also, it seems to force the computation to complete an entire
>>>>>>>> computation of the gradient, and hold it in memory, even though for a
>>>>>>>> local transform, it may be possible to perform the same update without
>>>>>>>> ever actually creating the whole gradient object in memory at once?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I saw tantalizing pieces of GPU registration code commented out.  Is
>>>>>>>> that in process somewhere?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In any case, i will spend more time on it which should hopefully lead
>>>>>>>> to more intelligent commentary, over the weekend.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Rupert
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Rupert Brooks
>>>>>>>> rupert.brooks at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:13, brian avants <stnava at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rupert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> help is very welcome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> refactored registration framework is here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/picslITK/ITK4_topics/tree/RegistrationRefactoringNew
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> take a look at :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ITK4_topics/Modules/Registration/Refactoring/test/itkDemonsImageToImageOb
>>>>>>>>> jectRegistrationTest.cxx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> which gives an example of a demons registration run in the standard
>>>>>>>>> framework.  the framework is changing, though, so realize what's there
>>>>>>>>> now is a mid-stream snapshot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> brian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Rupert Brooks
>>>>>>>>> <rupert.brooks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luis and everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As a pretty heavy user of ITK, I'm interested in helping out as well.
>>>>>>>>>> At the moment im working on some registration problems and im trying
>>>>>>>>>> to explore the refactored registration framework in ITK 4.
>>>>>>>>>> As im going through the current master, im noticing various things
>>>>>>>>>> ranging from typos to classes that seem to have gotten left behind to
>>>>>>>>>> questionable math.  I'd be happy to give this information as feedback
>>>>>>>>>> or fixes if its helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So question 1 - is the registration refactoring well represented in
>>>>>>>>>> ITK master, or is there more work elsewhere?  Is this the right time
>>>>>>>>>> to review it from a user perspective or is it premature?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Question 2 - whats the best way to proceed?  Do i need to configure
>>>>>>>>>> Gerrit access, etc as a developer to contribute to the textual notes
>>>>>>>>>> you mentioned?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Rupert
>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Rupert Brooks
>>>>>>>>>> rupert.brooks at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 09:46, Luis Ibanez <luis.ibanez at kitware.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for volunteering.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The plans for the global clean up are here:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK_Release_4/Global_Code_Review
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The procedure is described here
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK_Release_4/Modularization/Code_Reviews/Proce
>>>>>>>>>>> ss#Git-Based
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Essentially:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We have a duplicate Git repository
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/InsightSoftwareConsortium/itk-retroactive-review
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that contains a .txt file for every source code file in ITK.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of making bug entries in MANTIS,
>>>>>>>>>>> just edit those .txt files, and commit them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, if some issues are actual bugs,
>>>>>>>>>>> please feel free to report them in MANTIS.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More comments below...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Tom Vercauteren
>>>>>>>>>>> <tom.vercauteren at m4x.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luis,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to help in the cleanup process (especially for the code
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> worked on in the past) but have unfortunately very little time for
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The least I could do is pinpoint some places that I believe require
>>>>>>>>>>>> cleanup. The problem is I don't really know if such a task is wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>> and if so, how it should be done. Should I file bug reports  for each
>>>>>>>>>>>> cleanup task and mark them as feature requests? But then, who would
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> in charge of triaging these feature requests? Are other more
>>>>>>>>>>>> effective
>>>>>>>>>>>> options available?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK_Release_4/Modularization/Code_Reviews/Proce
>>>>>>>>>>> ss#Git-Based
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/InsightSoftwareConsortium/itk-retroactive-review
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For the time being, there are a least a few places on the top of my
>>>>>>>>>>>> head that require cleanup (some of which might be considered as
>>>>>>>>>>>> features depending on how you look at it). Sorted by order of
>>>>>>>>>>>> importance:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Bad design in ImportImageContainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Kitware/ITK/blob/master/Modules/Core/Common/include
>>>>>>>>>>>> /itkImportImageContainer.h
>>>>>>>>>>>> The memory allocation and deallocation functions have an inconsistent
>>>>>>>>>>>> signature. One uses a member and the others returns a pointer:
>>>>>>>>>>>>  virtual TElement * AllocateElements(ElementIdentifier size) const;
>>>>>>>>>>>>  virtual void DeallocateManagedMemory();
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This makes it really difficult to override the class in a correct
>>>>>>>>>>>> manner. I have actually stumped into a bug in
>>>>>>>>>>>> TestImportImageContainer
>>>>>>>>>>>> coming from this design issue ( that I haven't filed yet :( )
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Kitware/ITK/blob/master/Modules/Core/Common/test/it
>>>>>>>>>>>> kFactoryTestLib.cxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> With this TestImportImageContainer class, reallocating an image will
>>>>>>>>>>>> fail. This is bad since it will most certainly be the first thing
>>>>>>>>>>>> people will look at when trying to override the default memory
>>>>>>>>>>>> handling of ITK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Fair enough...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) The unicode filename problem on windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of the low-level code necessary to deal with unicode filenames
>>>>>>>>>>>> through utf-8 encoding is already in the repository but it isn't used
>>>>>>>>>>>> yet. What still need to be done is use this low-level code for all IO
>>>>>>>>>>>> operations. More detail in:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Bug/view.php?id=9623
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) There are a lot of useless vector-specific classes that were
>>>>>>>>>>>> introduced probably for MSVC 6. It might be the right time to merge
>>>>>>>>>>>> them back into the corresponding "scalar" classes.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://itk.org/Bug/view.php?id=2712
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK_Release_4/Wish_List#Image_Registration
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes,
>>>>>>>>>>> Cory, Arnaud, Gaetan and Brad L. have been improving
>>>>>>>>>>> the support for multiple components...
>>>>>>>>>>> We need raise the priority of this one,
>>>>>>>>>>> since it is so fundamental for
>>>>>>>>>>> Microscopy and for Remote Sensing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Some default options are not the most meaningful ones:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK_Release_4/Wish_List#Backward_compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>>> _and_cleanup
>>>>>>>>>>>> For example Gaussian smoothing uses either a sigma defined in terms
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> physical space or pixel space depending on its implementation
>>>>>>>>>>>> (discrete versus recursive).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeap, the API is inconsistent.
>>>>>>>>>>> Plus some take Sigma, while others take Variance...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) Others inconsistencies
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Bug/view.php?id=7351
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Bug/view.php?id=8944
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK_Release_4/Wish_List#Make_the_boundary_cond
>>>>>>>>>>>> itions_usage_consistent_across_the_toolkit
>>>>>>>>>>>> For example the behavior of the interpolators outside the image
>>>>>>>>>>>> domain
>>>>>>>>>>>> is not practical. This is one of the reason why I implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>> VectorLinearInterpolateNearestNeighborExtrapolateImageFunction
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Kitware/ITK/blob/master/Modules/Nonunit/Review/incl
>>>>>>>>>>>> ude/itkVectorLinearInterpolateNearestNeighborExtrapolateImageFunction.
>>>>>>>>>>>> h
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideally, the functionnality of this class should be handled by
>>>>>>>>>>>> LinearInterpolateImageFunction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It certainly does.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Many Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>        Luis
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 15:06, Luis Ibanez <luis.ibanez at kitware.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to second Brad L. comment regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our current misplaced focus on ITKv4.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a disproportionate number of changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are introducing new features in the toolkit,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we are supposed to be focused on cleaning
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up and restructuring for the next 10 years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that we prioritize every patch in Gerrit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on whether it is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Bug fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Clean up resulting from code reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Needed for refactoring (FEM, Regist, LevelSets)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 99) New features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have limited time and resources to do all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the refactoring and revision of ITKv4 and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are being side-tracked dealing with changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are not part of the ITKv4 charter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Luis
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