[Insight-users] The Insight Journal-New Submission

[Ali -]

Julien,

Thanks for clarifying this. It would be also helpful to hear from people from the other point of view.

It is appreciated that it took them a long time and lots of energy or some considrable funding to achieve what they reported and they feel unsafe to publish it as open source. Having said that, if it took them N months to implement the idea, and if I am interested to extend the idea, it will also take me about  N months to re-implement it -- the paper does NOT make it easier for other people to re-implement. This substantially decreases the chance of re-using ideas.


-Ali


> 
> Ali,
> 
> I very much agree with you and we certainly don't want to go away from 
> the Insight Journal philosophy. I'm glad we are thinking along the same 
> lines.
> 
> So now for the long story. MICCAI workshop papers are not going to be 
> included in the conference proceedings, therefore you would probably 
> never have heard about these papers, unless someone put them on a 
> website, etc... For this reason, we proposed to host the papers for 
> these workshops on the Insight Journal, so that people can access them, 
> publicly review them and interact with the authors.
> We have strongly encouraged (and are still encouraging) authors to 
> submit code, data and other materials as part of their submission, but 
> we are not enforcing it for these workshops.
> 
>  > I do not see much point in publishing something like: 'if
>  > you do such and such steps, in principle, you should get such and such
>  > results'. Almost anyone can claim this on paper, but, where is the
>  > implementation?
> 
> That's what traditional publishing has been doing for years. It is a 
> matter of trust and scientific ethics.
> The Insight Journal is trying to promote open-science and "converting" 
> people is not that easy, we just hope that offering the IJ to these 
> workshops is going to be a first step and will benefit the scientific 
> community.
> 
> Julien
> 
> Ali - wrote:
> > Julien,
> > 
> > I was not aware of that, I had the idea that it is the policy of Insight 
> > Journal to publish the obvious dependencies of the paper, such as the 
> > code, as well. I do not see much point in publishing something like: 'if 
> > you do such and such steps, in principle, you should get such and such 
> > results'. Almost anyone can claim this on paper, but, where is the 
> > implementation?
> > 
> > I honestly do not see the point of publishing in this style, can someone 
> > make this clear to me about code-less papers? Is this all about 
> > copyright? Isn't Insight Journal all about 'copyme'?
> > 
> > 
> > -Ali
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  >
> >  > Hi Ali,
> >  >
> >  > Thanks for the report. The PDF should be at least part of the zip 
> > archive.
> >  >
> >  > The Insight-Journal is being used for some of the workshops at the
> >  > upcoming MICCAI conference (Sept 2008). Some workshops don't require
> >  > submission of the source code (as much as we wanted them to), therefore
> >  > source code might not be present. Feel free to review the paper and
> >  > request the source code to the authors :)
> >  >
> >  > You can download the paper at: http://hdl.handle.net/1926/1371
> >  >
> >  > Julien
> >  >
> >  > Ali - wrote:
> >  > > The following paper comes with empty zip files. Is this a system 
> > error or is the paper supposed to lack the corresponding code?
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > -Ali
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > Hello,
> >  > > A new submission has been added to the Insight Journal.
> >  > >
> >  > > Title: Cardiac motion estimation using multi-scale feature points
> >  > > Author(s): Becciu, Alessandro
> >  > > Abstract:
> >  > > Heart illnesses influence the functioning of the cardiac muscle and 
> > are the major causes of death in
> >  > > the world. Optic flow methods are essential tools to assess and 
> > quantify the contraction of the cardiac
> >  > > walls, but are hampered by the aperture problem. Harmonic phase 
> > (HARP) techniques measure the
> >  > > phase in magnetic resonance (MR) tagged images. Due to the regular 
> > geometry, patterns generated by
> >  > > a combination of HARPs and sine HARPs represent a suitable 
> > framework to extract landmark features.
> >  > > In this paper we introduce a new aperture-problem free method to 
> > study the cardiac motion by tracking
> >  > > multi-scale features such as maxima, minima, saddles and corners, 
> > on HARP and sine HARP tagged
> >  > > images.
> >  > >
> >  > > Download the paper at: http://hdl.handle.net/1926/1371
> >  > > Review the paper at: http://insight-journal.org 
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