[Insight-users] FastBilateral missing in ITK?

Fri Aug 20 14:23:03 EDT 2010

Hi Alex,

Thanks for your explanation.
Now I understand the way how it's meant to be.

Regards,

Alex

Alexandre GOUAILLARD wrote:
> alright,
>
> I was too lazy to dig it.
>
> here it is:
> there use to be a roadmap for ITK where the user community could let
> the developers community know what they wanted:
> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK_Roadmap_2007_2008
> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK_Roadmap_2008_2009
>
> right now it has been kind of replaced by the itk v4 page (as itk v4
> effort span from june 2010 to june 2011).
> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK_Release_4.0
> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK_Release_4/Wish_List
>
> all those is to take with a grain of salt, i m not positive this is
> the right place (hence the "ask luis about where the right place is on
> the wiki").
>
> regards,
>
> alex.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Oleksandr Dzyubak <adzyubak at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> From Alex to Alex (Tautology? Interesting to hear that.).
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> thanks for your comprehensive reply.
>> I  have digested  the majority of it except the part with
>> "alternatively, you could see with luis where to put the request on the
>> wiki".
>> Are you talking about www.itk.org/wiki  or http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK ?
>> On either one I still could not find the magic button "Submit User Request".
>>
>> Where is it?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> Alexandre GOUAILLARD wrote:
>>     
>>> hi alex.
>>>
>>> Originally the idea was to let users gives review and when enough
>>> positive reviews were in, the filter would be moved to review first
>>> (with the option to later change the API) and later to ITK (with fixed
>>> API).
>>>
>>> Nowadays, practically, you should indeed write reviews for all the
>>> insight journal paper you used/tested wether it is positive or
>>> negative reviews. negative (but constructive) reviews are very
>>> valuable as insight journal let people update their work (both papers
>>> and code). This is very valuable feedback for contributors. Then, if
>>> you, as a user, think the filter is useful, you should let it know on
>>> this mailing list, as you just did, and someone (usually luis by
>>> default) will keep track of it on the wiki.
>>>
>>> When a filter is chosen for inclusion, one of the senior itk developer
>>> from the community usually volunteer to help the original contributor
>>> to bring the code to ITK quality level when needed. Help from the
>>> interested users for testing, advices, and so on is then greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> alternatively, you could see with luis where to put the request on the
>>> wiki so it is taken into consideration for inclusion in ITK for next
>>> releases. There are usually 4 releases a year.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> alex.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Oleksandr Dzyubak <adzyubak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hello Sergio,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reply. At the moment I am using the "old style".
>>>> So I have submitted my review to promote this submission.
>>>> Hopefully it helps.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sergio Vera wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Hello Oleksandr,
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I remember, articles from the Insight journal had to be
>>>>> reviewed
>>>>> by at least 4 or 5 users to enter the review section of ITK.
>>>>> So the first step is to write a review yourself after you have tested
>>>>> the
>>>>> code.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do however, believe that we, the users are a bit lazy about reviewing
>>>>> submissions, so contributions enter are moved into ITK very slowly.
>>>>> Maybe would be interesting to rethink the process to speed up the
>>>>> process
>>>>> of integration into ITK of the submissions.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the moment I wrote reviews to each submission that I use or find
>>>>> interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Oleksandr Dzyubak <adzyubak at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:adzyubak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   I have a need of a narrow kernel Bilateral filter
>>>>>   which works "relatively fast".
>>>>>   After some tests I found that the Bilateral filter
>>>>>   provided by the ITK library is much slower than I expected.
>>>>>   Well, I might be doing something wrong so I have to explore that
>>>>>   deeper.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Fortunately in the Insight Journal I found an alternative
>>>>>   by J. Woehr "A Fast Approximation to the Bilateral Filter for ITK"
>>>>>   which serves my needs so far.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Unfortunately this very useful filter did not get into the ITK.
>>>>>   Which is even more, this contribution was never given a review.
>>>>>
>>>>>   As Luis Ibanez mentioned somewhere on this forum that in some cases
>>>>>   a nice positive review can promote the filter to be accepted to
>>>>>   the ITK.
>>>>>
>>>>>   If I write such a review, would that help or
>>>>>   there is another mechanism such as "user request", for example?
>>>>>
>>>>>   Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>   Alex
>>>>>
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