[Insight-users] PNGwriter writes wrong scaling information

Dženan Zukić dzenanz at gmail.com
Tue Dec 11 10:53:58 EST 2012


It looks like Jim Miller introduced invalid unit usage in fix
15b9450b61249261d098506d9ff878744768025a
from 2003-02-19.

PNG spec <http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/book/chapter11.html#png.ch11.div.9>defines
meters and radians as allowed units in sCAL chunk, vs unknown and
meters in pHYs chunk. Hence the warning I have been seeing with OpenCV and
NConvert.


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Dženan Zukić <dzenanz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Current behavior is to ignore units, but it does not handle unit
> completely correctly (only handles the extension sCAL for metadata, but not
> the standard pHYs metadata).
>
> Extending current way would transform 2000 pixels/meter (pixel size 0.5
> mm) into spacing of 0.0005.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Bradley Lowekamp <blowekamp at mail.nih.gov>wrote:
>
>>
>> Having very small or very large spacing can have big impact on the
>> numerical stability of derivatives and evolving differential equations such
>> as level-sets or diffusion.
>>
>> I think the least surprising thing to the users would be to just keep it
>> the same as to avoid adverse numerical effects. Also this would not change
>> the current behavior, correct?
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Dženan Zukić <dzenanz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> PNG has three following units: meters, radians, and unknown. Currently
>> PNG reader ignores unit, and writes unknown units.
>>
>> I guess I Should keep writing unknown units. But when reading PNG with
>> meter units (eg. 2000 pixels/meter), should I transform it into pixel
>> spacing 0.5 (assuming customary millimeter) or into 0.0005?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> No units. ITK considers units an application thing. You can add a unit
>>> type if the format supports it. It could help applications. For
>>> example, most medical images use mm's.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Dženan Zukić <dzenanz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Is ITK still assuming no units, or millimeters are units for pixel
>>> spacing?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Bill Lorensen <
>>> bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If you submit a gerrit patch, I'll write or modify a test.
>>> >>
>>> >> How will we know if the fix works unless we test it? How will we know
>>> >> if someone reintroduces the bug if we don't test it?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Dženan Zukić <dzenanz at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > But this would be a bug fix, not a patch introducing new features.
>>> This
>>> >> > should already be working, and ideally having a test.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I know that many bugs don't get fixed, because they are not
>>> important
>>> >> > enough
>>> >> > and there is not enough people working on ITK. However a
>>> requirement to
>>> >> > write a 20-30 line test for a few lines of fixed code is a great
>>> >> > deterrence
>>> >> > for me to contribute bug fixes (such as this one).
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Bill Lorensen <
>>> bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Looks like ti should be fixed. But if you submit a gerrit patch,
>>> make
>>> >> >> sure oyu also supply a test or modify an existing test.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The lack of a test is why your previous gerrit patch has not been
>>> >> >> approved.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Bill
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Dženan Zukić <dzenanz at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> > Hi everyone,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I have noticed that ImageFileWriter, when writing png format,
>>> writes
>>> >> >> > wrong
>>> >> >> > pixel size information. It is not completely wrong, but it is
>>> not in
>>> >> >> > accordance with png specification.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > When reading such files with OpenCV, I get following warning:
>>> >> >> > libpng warning: Invalid sCAL ignored: invalid unit
>>> >> >> > This is not just annoying and clutter-causing, but displaying it
>>> for
>>> >> >> > every
>>> >> >> > single image slows down my OpenCV processing.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I used XnView to batch-edit the extracted slices and set some
>>> scaling
>>> >> >> > which
>>> >> >> > adheres to the specification to get rid of this warning.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Now the question: should I correct this bug, or submit a bug
>>> report?
>>> >> >> > My
>>> >> >> > last
>>> >> >> > bug-fixing ended non-gloriously :(
>>> >> >> >
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