[Insight-users] 3D mesh deformation ?

alexandre gouaillard alexandre.gouaillard@insa-lyon.fr
Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:09:48 +0100


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hi ting chen.

I agree with you , balloon force by itself is quite unstable. A snake =
usually require other forces to guide a deformable mesh to the contour =
of interest such as gradient force or others based on curvatures and =
smothness constraints.

What are your plan for this class ? are you going to resume the =
implementation , or have you given up for ever . I you go on , I would =
be interested in joining you to implement some other features for a more =
general 3D snake.

by the way , the link to your publication on your home page is broken , =
you should redirect it to your pictures directory as the file seems to =
be located there.

alex.

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  From: Ting Chen=20
  To: alexandre gouaillard=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Insight-users] 3D mesh deformation ?


  HI! I have written a itkdeformable3DMeshfilter and a =
itkballoonforcefilter for 3D and 2D deformable fitting. I give up =
itkballoonforce3Dfilter because it seems 3D ballon has problems in =
clinical applications (difficult to maintian topology)

  ting
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: alexandre gouaillard=20
    To: insight-users@public.kitware.com=20
    Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:04 AM
    Subject: [Insight-users] 3D mesh deformation ?


    hi everyone.

    By browsing into the doxygen generated docs, I found references to =
(almost) 3D deformation mesh classes, and especially a class named =
BalloonForce3Dfilter which implements a 3D snake.

    But I didn't see any references to it in the brand new software =
manual neither couldn't I find any example related to this class.

    Is there any example I missed ?
    Is there any documentation (else than html or source code) to come ?
    and, last but not least, are other 3D segmentation algorithms' =
implementation scheduled ?

    by the way , huge work on the software manual , it's awesome ! (in =
several way much better than the vtk user manual :-) )

    alex.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hi ting chen.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with you , balloon force by =
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unstable. A snake usually require other forces to guide a deformable =
mesh to the=20
contour of interest such as gradient force or others based on curvatures =
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smothness constraints.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What are your plan for this class ? are =
you going=20
to resume the implementation , or have you given up for ever . I you go =
on , I=20
would be interested in joining you to implement some other features for =
a more=20
general 3D snake.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>by the way , the link to your =
publication on your=20
home page is broken , you should redirect it to your pictures directory =
as the=20
file seems to be located there.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>alex.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HI! I have written a =
itkdeformable3DMeshfilter=20
  and a itkballoonforcefilter for 3D and 2D deformable fitting. I give =
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  itkballoonforce3Dfilter because it seems 3D ballon has problems in =
clinical=20
  applications (difficult to maintian topology)</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ting</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hi everyone.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By browsing into the doxygen =
generated docs, I=20
    found references to (almost) 3D deformation mesh classes, and =
especially a=20
    class named BalloonForce3Dfilter which implements a 3D =
snake.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But I didn't see any references to =
it in the=20
    brand new software manual neither couldn't I find any example =
related to=20
    this class.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there any example I missed =
?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there any documentation (else =
than html or=20
    source code) to come ?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and, last but not least, are other =
3D=20
    segmentation algorithms' implementation&nbsp;scheduled =
?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>by the way , huge work on the =
software manual ,=20
    it's awesome ! (in several way much better than the vtk user manual =
:-)=20
    )</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>alex.</FONT></DIV>
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