[Insight-users] 3D mesh deformation ?
alexandre gouaillard
alexandre.gouaillard@insa-lyon.fr
Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:15:58 +0100
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Thanks for pointing out the example.
I'm going to play with it for the days to come :-)
By the way , you 're writing something about a problem on Gradient =
vector flow, and you disabled some filters in the example's source. =
Could you tell me more about that issue ?
alex.
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From: Ting Chen=20
To: alexandre gouaillard=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Insight-users] 3D mesh deformation ?
Hi! Alex,=20
I am working on to apply multiple forces onto active contours, you may =
take a look at the itkdeformabletest to see how I apply graident force =
onto the deformable. I would be great if we can work together to make =
the snakes in itk more powerful.
thanks for note me the error in the link, I will fix it.
ting
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From: alexandre gouaillard=20
To: Ting Chen=20
Cc: insight-users@public.kitware.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Insight-users] 3D mesh deformation ?
hi ting chen.
I agree with you , balloon force by itself is quite unstable. A =
snake usually require other forces to guide a deformable mesh to the =
contour of interest such as gradient force or others based on curvatures =
and smothness constraints.
What are your plan for this class ? are you going to resume the =
implementation , or have you given up for ever . I you go on , I would =
be interested in joining you to implement some other features for a more =
general 3D snake.
by the way , the link to your publication on your home page is =
broken , you should redirect it to your pictures directory as the file =
seems to be located there.
alex.
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From: Ting Chen=20
To: alexandre gouaillard=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Insight-users] 3D mesh deformation ?
HI! I have written a itkdeformable3DMeshfilter and a =
itkballoonforcefilter for 3D and 2D deformable fitting. I give up =
itkballoonforce3Dfilter because it seems 3D ballon has problems in =
clinical applications (difficult to maintian topology)
ting
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From: alexandre gouaillard=20
To: insight-users@public.kitware.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:04 AM
Subject: [Insight-users] 3D mesh deformation ?
hi everyone.
By browsing into the doxygen generated docs, I found references =
to (almost) 3D deformation mesh classes, and especially a class named =
BalloonForce3Dfilter which implements a 3D snake.
But I didn't see any references to it in the brand new software =
manual neither couldn't I find any example related to this class.
Is there any example I missed ?
Is there any documentation (else than html or source code) to =
come ?
and, last but not least, are other 3D segmentation algorithms' =
implementation scheduled ?
by the way , huge work on the software manual , it's awesome ! =
(in several way much better than the vtk user manual :-) )
alex.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for pointing out the =
example.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm going to play with it for the days =
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:-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By the way , you 're writing something =
about a=20
problem on Gradient vector flow, and you disabled some filters in =
the=20
example's source. Could you tell me more about that issue ?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>alex.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi! Alex, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am working on to apply multiple =
forces onto=20
active contours, you may take a look at the itkdeformabletest to see =
how I=20
apply graident force onto the deformable. I would be great if we can =
work=20
together to make the snakes in itk more powerful.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thanks for note me the error in the =
link, I will=20
fix it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ting</FONT></DIV>
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gouaillard</A>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hi ting chen.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with you , balloon force by =
itself is=20
quite unstable. A snake usually require other forces to guide a =
deformable=20
mesh to the contour of interest such as gradient force or others =
based on=20
curvatures and smothness constraints.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What are your plan for this class ? =
are you=20
going to resume the implementation , or have you given up for ever . =
I you=20
go on , I would be interested in joining you to implement some other =
features for a more general 3D snake.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>by the way , the link to your =
publication on=20
your home page is broken , you should redirect it to your pictures =
directory=20
as the file seems to be located there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>alex.</FONT></DIV>
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gouaillard</A>=20
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5:28 PM</DIV>
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[Insight-users] 3D mesh=20
deformation ?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HI! I have written a=20
itkdeformable3DMeshfilter and a itkballoonforcefilter for 3D and =
2D=20
deformable fitting. I give up itkballoonforce3Dfilter because it =
seems 3D=20
ballon has problems in clinical applications (difficult to =
maintian=20
topology)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ting</FONT></DIV>
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15, 2003=20
10:04 AM</DIV>
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3D mesh=20
deformation ?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hi everyone.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By browsing into the doxygen =
generated=20
docs, I found references to (almost) 3D deformation mesh =
classes, and=20
especially a class named BalloonForce3Dfilter which implements a =
3D=20
snake.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But I didn't see any references =
to it in=20
the brand new software manual neither couldn't I find any =
example=20
related to this class.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there any example I missed=20
?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there any documentation =
(else than html=20
or source code) to come ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and, last but not least, are =
other 3D=20
segmentation algorithms' implementation scheduled =
?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>by the way , huge work on the =
software=20
manual , it's awesome ! (in several way much better than the vtk =
user=20
manual :-) )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>alex.</FONT></DIV>
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