[Insight-users] leaky segmentation
Toon Huysmans
denhuys@hotmail.com
Thu May 20 10:54:13 EDT 2004
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Hi,
I am confronted with a not so trivial segmentation task, for me at
least. I have attached a slice from the 3D dataset.
The structures I have to segment are tubular, and the section shows
a cross-section. The upper tube is marked with a
green dot, the lower tube is marked with two red dots (but it is one
tube, just for clarity).
Now, I am able to get a nice initial segmentation using Curvature
Anisotropic Diffusion and Connected Thresholding.
Then I experiment with the level-set algorithms using SNAP, starting
with the initial segmentation. It doesnt matter
if I use a region or edge based speed-image, the two tubes always
leak into each other at the points where the edge
between them is not so clear.
Does anyone have an idea to get the edges more expressive (I already
tried gradient+sigmoid) or stop the leaking?
Could it be possible to use a sort of competitive snakes, where I
use a seperate snake for each of the two tubes and
the let both snakes evolve simultaneously and prohibit them from
intersecting?
Thanks In Advance,
Toon.
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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trivial
segmentation task, for me at least. I have attached a slice =
from the
3D dataset.</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> The structures I have to segment =
are tubular,
and the section shows a cross-section. The upper tube is marked =
with a</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> green dot, the lower tube is =
marked with
two red dots (but it is one tube, just for =
clarity).</span></font></p>
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12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> Now, I am able to get a nice =
initial
segmentation using Curvature Anisotropic Diffusion and Connected =
Thresholding.</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> Then I experiment with the =
level-set
algorithms using SNAP, starting with the initial segmentation. It doesnt =
matter</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> if I use a region or edge based
speed-image, the two tubes always leak into each other at the =
points
where the edge</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> between them is not so =
clear.</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> Does anyone have an idea to get =
the edges
more expressive (I already tried gradient+sigmoid) or stop the =
leaking?</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> Could it be possible to use a sort =
of
competitive snakes, where I use a seperate snake for each of the two =
tubes and</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> the let both snakes evolve =
simultaneously
and prohibit them from intersecting?</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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