[Insight-users] Initializing a BSplineTransform in ITK 4.4

Frank Preiswerk frank.preiswerk at unibas.ch
Mon Aug 5 02:23:04 EDT 2013


Hi Nick,

sorry for this late reply, I was out of office over the past days.

Thank you very much for looking at this in such detail!

Best,
Frank


On 08/01/2013 04:09 PM, Nick Tustison wrote:
> Hi Frank,
>
> I don't see anything immediately.  I can't work on it now but will 
> most likely get to
> it this weekend.  I'll also take your code and, after we figure out 
> what's going on,
> add it as a test in using the b-spline transform with the new 
> framework since
> we currently don't have one (outside of our ANTs tool).
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Frank Preiswerk 
> <frank.preiswerk at unibas.ch <mailto:frank.preiswerk at unibas.ch>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> I have noticed that the error is not thrown if I do not set the 
>> initial transform for the moving image via 
>> registrationMethod->SetMovingInitialTransform (although the optimizer 
>> then produces a constant error value and the registration simply 
>> iterates without altering the deformation field - I don't know if 
>> this is an unrelated problem).
>>
>> My setup is simple, i.e. no multi-resolution involved. I'm doing 
>> essentially this:
>>
>> typedef itk::BSplineTransform< PixelType, ImageDimension > TransformType;
>> typedef itk::MeanSquaresImageToImageMetricv4< ImageType, ImageType 
>> >     MetricType;
>> typedef itk::GradientDescentOptimizerv4 OptimizerType;
>> typedef itk::ImageRegistrationMethodv4< ImageType, ImageType, 
>> TransformType > RegistrationMethodType;
>> typedef itk::RegistrationParameterScalesFromPhysicalShift< MetricType 
>> > ScalesEstimatorType;
>>
>> MetricType::Pointer metric = MetricType::New();
>>
>> OptimizerType::Pointer optimizer = OptimizerType::New();
>> optimizer->SetNumberOfIterations( 200 );
>> optimizer->SetDoEstimateLearningRateOnce( true );
>> optimizer->SetMinimumConvergenceValue( 1e-16 );
>> optimizer->SetConvergenceWindowSize( 20 );
>> optimizer->SetMaximumStepSizeInPhysicalUnits( 2 );
>>
>> ScalesEstimatorType::Pointer scalesEstimator = 
>> ScalesEstimatorType::New();
>> scalesEstimator->SetMetric( metric );
>> scalesEstimator->SetTransformForward( true );
>> optimizer->SetScalesEstimator( scalesEstimator );
>> optimizer->SetDoEstimateScales( true );
>>
>> RegistrationMethodType::Pointer registrationMethod = 
>> RegistrationMethodType::New();
>> registrationMethod->SetOptimizer( optimizer );
>> registrationMethod->SetFixedImage( fixedImage );
>> registrationMethod->SetMovingImage( movingImage );
>> registrationMethod->SetFixedInitialTransform( initialFixedTransform );
>> registrationMethod->SetMovingInitialTransform( initialMovingTransform );
>> registrationMethod->SetNumberOfLevels( 1 );
>> registrationMethod->SetMetric( metric );
>> registrationMethod->SetMetricSamplingStrategy( 
>> RegistrationMethodType::NONE );
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The initial transforms are initialized like this:
>>
>> TransformType::PhysicalDimensionsType fixedPhysicalDimensions;
>> TransformType::MeshSizeType meshSize;
>> for( unsigned int i=0; i < ImageDimension; i++ )
>> {
>>   fixedPhysicalDimensions[i] = fixedImage->GetSpacing()[i] *
>>   static_cast<double>(
>> movingImage->GetLargestPossibleRegion().GetSize()[i] - 1 );
>> }
>> unsigned int SplineOrder = 3;
>> unsigned int numberOfGridNodesInOneDimension = 5;
>> meshSize.Fill( numberOfGridNodesInOneDimension - SplineOrder );
>> initialMovingTransform->SetTransformDomainOrigin( 
>> movingImage->GetOrigin() );
>> initialMovingTransform->SetTransformDomainPhysicalDimensions( 
>> fixedPhysicalDimensions );
>> initialMovingTransform->SetTransformDomainMeshSize( meshSize );
>> initialMovingTransform->SetTransformDomainDirection( 
>> movingImage->GetDirection() );
>> TransformType::ParametersType initialMovingParameters( 
>> initialMovingTransform->GetNumberOfParameters() );
>> initialMovingParameters.Fill(0.0);
>> initialMovingTransform->SetParameters(initialMovingParameters);
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the link to the relevant ANTs class. I took a look at the 
>> relevant lines but it didn't help me either.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/31/2013 01:21 PM, Nick Tustison wrote:
>>> Hi Frank,
>>>
>>> I'm cc'ing the insight users list as others might be interested.
>>>
>>> How are you setting up the registration? In case you were 
>>> interested, we have
>>> a pretty comprehensive application which ties in all the new 
>>> registration stuff
>>> in a single application. In it, we set up the B-spline transform 
>>> which you can
>>> view at
>>>
>>> https://github.com/stnava/ANTs/blob/master/Examples/itkantsRegistrationHelper.hxx
>>>
>>> starting at line 1896.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:45 AM, Frank Preiswerk 
>>> <frank.preiswerk at unibas.ch <mailto:frank.preiswerk at unibas.ch>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Nick,
>>>>
>>>> I have adapted my code to work with the new ITKv4 classes. For the 
>>>> affine registration this worked well. But for the BSplineTransform, 
>>>> I get the following error during optimization:
>>>>
>>>> /usr/local/include/ITK-4.4/itkImageToImageMetricv4GetValueAndDerivativeThreaderBase.hxx:258:
>>>> Exception in GetValueAndDerivativeProcessPoint:
>>>> /usr/local/include/ITK-4.4/itkBSplineBaseTransform.h:282:
>>>> itk::ERROR: BSplineTransform(0x384cb00): 
>>>> ComputeJacobianWithRespectToPosition not yet implemented for 
>>>> BSplineTransform
>>>>
>>>> I use GradientDescentOptimizerv4 and 
>>>> MeanSquaresImageToImageMetricv4 and also tried substituting them 
>>>> with QuasiNewtonOptimizerv4 and 
>>>> MattesMutualInformationImageToImageMetricv4 but to no avail.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to bother you but I could not find any examples on the web 
>>>> that shows how the BSplineTransform can be used in the new framework.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks!
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 07/30/2013 04:09 PM, Nick Tustison wrote:
>>>>> Hi Frank,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think that anybody on the registration team has tried to use the composite
>>>>> transform with the old registration framework.  I'm not even sure that it would work
>>>>> as both the optimization and metrics are completely separate between ITKv3 and
>>>>> ITKv4.  In suggesting the use of the CompositeTransform class, I didn't catch that
>>>>> you were sticking with ITKv3.  Sorry about that.
>>>>>
>>>>> There was some earlier work by Torsten and Marius & Stefan who gave us some
>>>>> ideas for the current composite transform.  Perhaps one of those contributions would
>>>>> fit your needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.insight-journal.org/browse/publication/143
>>>>> http://www.insight-journal.org/browse/publication/91
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I would be remiss if I didn't at least proselyte concerning the utility of the new
>>>>> registration framework.  There's quite a few advantages in addition to the composite
>>>>> transform:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Wiki/ITK/Release_4/Why_Switch_to_ITKv4#New_Registration_Framework
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Frank Preiswerk<frank.preiswerk at unibas.ch>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Nick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a few additional questions and I would be very glad if you could help me getting on the right track.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your suggestion to use the CompositeTransform guided me to the new registration framework. I have played around a bit and now I'm unsure which version to use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all, in ImageRegistrationMethodv4 there is a method SetMovingInitialTransform that probably does exactly what I need. As far as I understand it, one can achieve the same with the old framework by using CompositeTransform like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> compositeTransform->AddTransform(affineTransform); // the output from the prior affine step
>>>>>> compositeTransform->AddTransform(bsplineTransform);
>>>>>> compositeTransform->SetOnlyMostRecentTransformToOptimizeOn(); // activate the bspline transform for the next optimization
>>>>>> registration->SetTransform( compositeTransform );
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this the way how to properly use CompositeTransform in the old registration framework? And is my assumption correct that SetMovingInitialTransform would be sufficient when using the new framework?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your efforts,
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/29/2013 12:16 PM, Nick Tustison wrote:
>>>>>>> You should try using the composite transform
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/Doxygen/html/classitk_1_1CompositeTransform.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:49 AM, Frank Preiswerk<frank.preiswerk at unibas.ch>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm writing a program that performs image registration by first computing an
>>>>>>>> affine transformation followed by a bspline deformation. The bspline
>>>>>>>> registration should be initialized with the output of the affine
>>>>>>>> registration.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm using ITK 4.4. The example DeformableRegistration15.cxx intends to do
>>>>>>>> the above but it seems that the BSplineTransform is actually not initialized
>>>>>>>> with the output of the affine step, as already reported earlier:
>>>>>>>> http://www.itk.org/pipermail/insight-users/2012-May/044623.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ITK 3's BSplineDeformableTransform had a method SetBulkTransform to concat
>>>>>>>> the bspline transform with another transform, but in ITK 4's
>>>>>>>> BSplineTransform this method was removed. So the question remains how to
>>>>>>>> properly initialize a BSplineTransform with an affine (or any other)
>>>>>>>> registration output.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Computing the parameters of the bspline transform by applying the affine
>>>>>>>> transform to the grid nodes is an option. But something like
>>>>>>>> SetBulkTransform would be much more convenient.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm thankful for any hints.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Frank Preiswerk, Senior Researcher
>>>>>> Medical Image Analysis Center (MIAC)
>>>>>> University of Basel c/o University Hospital Basel
>>>>>> Spitalstrasse 21
>>>>>> CH-4031 Basel
>>>>>> Switzerland
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel: +41 61 265 96 58
>>>>>> Fax: +41 61 265 96 68
>>>>>> Office:Schanzenstrasse 46, Room 321
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Frank Preiswerk, Senior Researcher
>>>> Medical Image Analysis Center (MIAC)
>>>> University of Basel c/o University Hospital Basel
>>>> Spitalstrasse 21
>>>> CH-4031 Basel
>>>> Switzerland
>>>>
>>>> Tel: +41 61 265 96 58
>>>> Fax: +41 61 265 96 68
>>>> Office:Schanzenstrasse 46, Room 321
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Frank Preiswerk, Senior Researcher
>> Medical Image Analysis Center (MIAC)
>> University of Basel c/o University Hospital Basel
>> Spitalstrasse 21
>> CH-4031 Basel
>> Switzerland
>>
>> Tel: +41 61 265 96 58
>> Fax: +41 61 265 96 68
>> Office:Schanzenstrasse 46, Room 321
>


-- 
Frank Preiswerk, Senior Researcher
Medical Image Analysis Center (MIAC)
University of Basel c/o University Hospital Basel
Spitalstrasse 21
CH-4031 Basel
Switzerland

Tel: +41 61 265 96 58
Fax: +41 61 265 96 68
Office:Schanzenstrasse 46, Room 321

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